| 11/02/01
The following are unedited
replies to my Angry!blog entry (dated 10/31/01)
Dear Kita!
I read your blog today and
I found your attempt to "piss some people off".
First of all, you didn´t
piss me off.
Second: I´m German,
so you managed to offend me a little with your last
statement. Maybe that is
the reason, why I decided to write to you. Not
because I am offended (
I can live with that), but because I think it might
be interesting for you to
hear an opinion by someone who comes from another
country.
Believe it or not, but there
are actually people outside of the United
States, who do not judge
the war, but discuss it before judging. I am one of
those persons, and in the
last weeks, I discussed it quite a lot.
Though I can understand why
you feel offended by what is written and said
about your country´s
role in the war, I think you should also see, why
people say these things.
A good reason for saying them does not make them
right, but I think it could
make it easier to understand them.
There are various reasons,
why people from other countries cannot understand
the war.
One of these reasons you
mentioned in your blog: patriotism. For me, as a
German, who has to live
with Germany´s difficult history ( I am 23, even my
parents were after the Second
World War) patriotism is something very
difficult to understand.
It simply does not exist where I am from. Try to
say " I´m proud to
be German" here, and people will immediately say you are
a racist. These things don´t
go necessarily hand in hand, but it is the
reaction you will get. Somehow,
while growing up I learned that it does not
matter which country you
are from and that all men are equal and that in
consequence, the simple
fact of being from a certain country is nothing to
be proud of. Only what you
do as a member of this country is something you
can be proud of, or ashamed
about. Now, I don´t want to say, that patriotism
is bad. Actually I think
that it can be quite good, as it gives people a
motivation to do things
for their country, to create a country which one can
be proud of. I just want
to say, that it might be difficult for some people
to understand the patriotism
that can be found in the United States, simply
because they cannot be patriots
themselves. Add to that the fact, that we
get our information from
the papers and news of our respective country, and
you will see that people
are mainly influenced by what is written. And to
tell you the truth: the
papers and news in Germany -no matter what they
think of the war- tend to
present Americans as a bunch of absolute patriots
who support their country
without thinking. Of course that´s not the true,
and a reasonable reader
will discover that and maybe build his own opinion,
but let´s stay in
reality: people don´t. Why think about something if an
opinion is already presented
to you and you can take it for granted? That is
really sad, and it is one
more reason for you to get offended by what is
written, but even more sadly:
you cannot suddenly make all people
intelligent enough to become
more critical against what is said in the
papers.
Another reason, why it is
difficult for people from other countries to
understand the war is: we
weren´t there. We have not been in New York, when
it happened! It wasn´t
our country! So, we simply cannot understand what it
feels like when your own
country is attacked like that. And, another very
human but not necessarily
good way of behaviour is, that judging from the
outside is always very easy.
By now you will have noticed
that so far I have given you only more reasons
to become really offended
and pissed off. Well, I just wanted to make clear,
that coming from another
perspective, the way of judgement is different
too. Please keep that in
mind when reading what I want to say about the
other things you wrote.
"Well, America *used to support*
the Taliban!"
Nice argument, heard it
quite a lot in the last weeks! And you have to
admit, that America used
to put not just a little money and weapons into
Afghanistan, during Afghanistans
war with Russia. So it is kind of absurd,
that your country fights
against its own weapons, so to speak, now. Only,
that is neither an
argument for the war, nor against. And I really don´t
want to judge if it was
ever right to support the Taliban, I really don´t
know and it is a little
late now anyway! But, when you write, okay, "we did
support a lot of ill-concieved
regimes. But for godsake, if CANADA took out
the Twin Towers we'd bomb
their ass too, 'cause it don't matter who you
sleep with, they still don't
have the right to rape you", I have to
disagree. Of course this
is purely my opinion, but I really don´t think you
would have started a war
with Canada. First of all, starting a war (I
suddenly noticed that starting
might not be the right term, because the
terrorists started it, but
you know what I mean by using it). Well, starting
a war is something that
is usually eyed very suspicious by the rest of the
world, and, being in nice
international agreements as most countries, the
United States would not
just start (or answer or continue or whatever) a war
with one of the countries
of the one of these agreements ( I´m sorry, but I
don´t know the technical
terms, it is probably allies). BEcause if they do
that, the other partners
of the agreement (alliance?) would automatically be
against them, and the consequences
might not be so nice. In that way,
Afghanistan was an easy
target! The important American allies, are not
allies of the United States.
Thus, other countries with a considerable
weapon strength did not
have to be feared in a war with Afghanistan. To the
outside observer,
the fact that Afghanistan is a easy to attack enemy, can
be seen as a not really
legitimate reason to indulge in a war with it.
Which explains some of the
voices against the war.
The argument "Well, Americans
are rich and spoiled, so they had it coming!"
that you state next, is
no argument at all, and I agree on what you say
about it. If it is any help
I can tell you, that I have neither read it in
any of the German newspapers
I read, not heard it from any of the people I
discussed with. As said
as it is, there will always be people who are
jealous and envious on the
richness of another country or other people and
who will therefore be pleased
when something happens to those people.
In my opinion, something
entirely different can be said about this war,
something you haven´t
mentioned:
There are rules about wars.
And one of these rules is, that a war can only
be declared against a country.
A war is a thing between two or more
countries. There cannot
be a war against a single person. In this case, that
is the big problem. It was
not Afghanistan, that sent those planes into the
WTC and the Pentagon. It
might have been a person who currently lives in
Afghanistan. But it was
not the government. Therefore, from a legal point of
view, a war against Afghanistan
is not justified.
Another of these rules is,
that a war is only a defensive war, if it is in
defense against the warlike
attack of another country. There was no warlike
attack of another country,
only an attack by other people! Afghanistan never
said, "we declare war against
the United States by bombing the WTC and the
Pentagon with some planes."
They did not say that! And this, from the pure
legal perspective, turns
the war into a war of aggression, which is a lot
harder to justify than a
defensive war.
These are arguments that
are actually written, adn I know many people who
support this opinion.
I think you have to at least
consider them. There are things about this war
which make it at least questionable.
I don´t support this
opinion. But I would, if it was another country.
Personally, I´m almost
convinced, that either the Taliban government knew,
what Bin Laden had planned,
or they at least welcomed it afterwards. For me
that is the same.
It would be absurd, if a government could attack other
countries through some terrorists
and then say "it wasn´t us, it was those
stuid terrorists! SOrry
about that, but now you can´t start a war". It would
also be wrong, if the United
States were not allowed to do something
themselves, because Afghanistan
denied the extradition of Bin Laden. I don´t
think a government has the
right to hide a murderer, especially not a
murderer in a case like
this. But, in another country, I would have had
doubts, if the government
can be held responsible for the actions of one of
their citizens, and I would
very probably say that they can´t.
Only, Afghanistan does not
have a government like other countries! It
suppresses its citizens
and they live in absolute poverty. THe effect of the
war is -of course- that
their living conditions deteriorate even more. That
is something that the parties
of this war are responsible for. That they
United Stated are responsible
for. It is a consequence of every war, that
usually the innocent suffer
the most. But in itself it cannot be an argument
against defending the own
country, and therefore it cannot be held against
your country.
There might have been different
ways to react to the attacks. But I don´t
think it is the business
of other countries to judge about the way your
government took. I don´t
want to answer the question, if there has been a
better way to react, if
fighting was maybe not necessary. I don´t have to
answer it. Your government
chose to fight against the Taliban. And I think
they have every right
to do so.
I understand that
you were angry about the things that you pointed out in
your blog. I believe it
is a good thing to write about them, because maybe
it makes people think about
what they say. But maybe my letter has shown
you, that it is actually
worth thinking about the reasons for this war, and
that there are people who
actually might have good reasons against it.
So, now you have seen a
perspective from someone who is not American. If you
think something I wrote
was absolutely wrong, don´t hesitate to tell me. I
am always willing to rethink(is
that a word?) my opinion.
Kind regards, Anna Schmitt
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Hiya Kita,
Just read Angry-blog...
I *so* love the american
sensibility I've discovered
in my US friends.
There is a sense of optimism, and
good nature. Open-hearted
and minded, in a way that
I've never found in such
proliferation in the UK, or
Europe. Americans
care for each other and it feels
good.
I am a long time, and vocal,
critic of US foreign
policy, as I am of the forign
policies of most other
misbegotten governments
on this sorry fucking planet.
And most of their other
policies too.
It makes me love people more
because, still, with all
this shit going on, there
are people everywhere who
are contributory, and positive
in the world.
Don't worry about the vocal
imbercils, who can gloat
at the death of people.
Their own anger is making
them inhuman. They
have probably been badly hurt
sometime too.
There is, *duh*, NO excuse
for the unconsidered
killing of a stranger.
Never. Under any
circumstance, and, if some
people do forget that,
well, most of us don't.
Personally, I went into a
two days of physical shock
on September the 11th.
My reaction, and the thoughts
that followed it, have led
me to be a little less
absolutist in my judgements,
and a little kinder to
people around me.
We are living in a strange,
and sometimes hostile,
time. I happy that
there are things pulling us all
together, as well as those
trying to push us apart.
The internet has broken down
more barriers between
peoples of different contries
than would have been
though possible.
I have hope!
Love
JaneX |
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